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9600 Owner Comments on OS X 10.1 SCSI Device Support:
Last Updated: 10/11/2001

A 9600 with several SCSI devices (CDRW, MO drive, Scanner) sent a long detailed list of comments on OS X install/operation on his "unsupported" Mac.

" I'm not sure where this fits in, news-wise, but I thought this was interesting:

On my upgraded 9600/200 (it's on both the CD database and the processor upgrade database) I was able to install OS 10 (upgraded to 10.1).

Some facts (using the wonderful UnsupportedX utility and cache enabler):

  • My Yamaha 2100s would not boot the OSX cd

  • My Initio UW card could not host the boot drive (even with the beta firmware which offered OS X support).

  • a CD-ROM pulled from an old Performa 6214 could boot the OSX cd -- slowly.

  • a 40 gig WD drive on sonnet temp/66 ide card hosted the boot drive just fine.

    It was amazing to see OS X on my 9600. It booted about 3 times as fast as OS 9 (even when at 10.04), though certain interface elements are much slower than OS 9.

    Once in OS X:
    Initio card seemed to work just fine for data drives (2 18 gig quantums III), but the Yamaha CDRW connected to the initio's internal plug was very flakey. It would only read the first partition on any CD, and often gave read errors.

    Notes on stability:
    I've never had a kernal panic. I HAVE had lock-ups (OS 9 style universal freez-ups), though they seemed to subside after I:

    1. removed the initio card (until they come out with non-beta firmware)

    2. removed aurora fuse capture card (I plan to put it in new dual 533 G4, for added bus throughput)

    3. moved the apple firewire kit pci card to the the third-from-the-top slot (tempo is in the top-most slot)

    I had originally moved the keyspan usb card from slot 4 to slot 2, but my machine wouldn't even chime-up (I panicked for a moment thinking that I must not have properly de-static-ed myself). Remembering all the timing bugs in the 6-slot towers, I put it back with crossed fingers and it was OK.

    My video card, replacing the original IMS twin turbo, is a 16MB Rage Orion.

    Notes on hardware compatibility:

  • When I removed my Initio card, I put the Yamaha 2100S in the internal scsi bus. I've had it there before in OS9, and it works just as quickly as with the initio, and even boots OS 9, but with X it only asks If i would like to format whatever I put it it, whether it be a Commercially Pressed CD or a CDr/rw.

  • My Linotype-Hell Jade scanner attached to the external scsi port almost worked once with VueScanX. It got so far as to start calibrating for a pre-scan, but just stopped there and didn't respond for the next ten minutes or so. I tried quitting and restarting the VueScanX program, but it never again would recognize the scanner (or the Olympus ES-10 slide scanner for that matter) again, so I've since moved them to my 6200 (which has a dead IDE bus, so I've got an old scsi drive attached to where the CD once was -- but that is a different story) where they are happily living-out the rest of their dead-end scsi live :( -- good thing networking old and new macs is such a piece of cake.

  • Much to my surprise, OS X mounts my external scsi zip, EZflyer 230, and intermart PCMCIA card reader; and my internal Dynamo640 MO.

    • the EZflyer seems to only mount once per login -- weird, but not as weird as the fact that it works at all.

    • the intermart PCMCIA card reader (which I had really given up all hope on EVER working in osX) is tricky to dismount. You must trash the Icon, then immediately pull out the memory card or it remounts (its kinda like the computer is a mischievous child playing a prank.)

    • the Dynamo640 is more responsive and ejects faster than it did in OS 9 with FWD drivers.

    Overall, I'm almost giddy over the virtual reincarnation of my 9600. It is sort of a central network repository for my other computers, and it does its network payloads much quicker than in OS9 (especially noticeable for copies that involve many small files)

    My only regret is that my formerly superb Yamaha 2100s is now a nightlight (unless I boot back to OS9), and that my great scanners are now banished to a sloth-like fanken-mac.

    I might ad that none of this would have been possible if it was not for the information I've been absorbing from your wonderful site.
    Thanks.

  • I assume he used Ryan Rempel's famous OS X Utility for the install. (For more info see Ryan's page at OWC on OS X on Legacy Macs.


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